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1. RE: TWINE
Oct 25 2007, 9:16 PM EDT
but she was also a bond girl, and they trump all suits :) so renard gets promoted
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alexberg |
2. RE: TWINE
Oct 26 2007, 1:03 AM EDT
Agreed. Renard was a strong villain. conceptually a bit far fetched (which bond villain isn't?) but a strong performance and an interesting character.
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3. RE: TWINE
Nov 7 2007, 9:52 PM EST
Well I disagree, because Renard and electra were in cahoots, I know Electra was manipulating him, but he was still a villain, and the fact that electra was the brains is not revealed until the end of the movie. I think that a henchman is defined as merely the hired help.
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JustinAtheropinion |
4. RE: TWINE
Nov 8 2007, 1:19 PM EST
Just as there were two in "The Living Daylights" (Whittaker and Koskov), there are two in TWINE (Elektra and Renard)--the two completed each other and you can't have one without the other. That's what Purvis and Wade did to put a spin on the formula--make a Bond-girl one of the main villains (though they'd been hench-people before). The better question to ask is: "What is Octopussy?" She's a Bond-girl, but isn't she a villain as well?
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DocHolliday |
5. RE: TWINE
Dec 27 2007, 7:55 PM EST
You could argue there were two main villains in From Russia With Love (Klebb and Blofeld); also two villains in Octopussy (Kamal and Orlov) -- Octopussy was being duped by them both (she thought she was smuggling jewelry, not a nuke), so she doesn't qualify as the real villain of that film. I'd rate Renard and Elektra as equals in villainy.
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bleauchamp |
6. RE: TWINE
Jan 7 2008, 8:46 PM EST
Also, in Casino Royale, Mr. White and Le Chiffre are both the main villains.
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bleauchamp |
7. RE: TWINE
Jan 19 2008, 11:07 AM EST
I agree with Doc Holiday on Octopussy. Also, she and Magda were betrayed. They totally turned. However, May Day turned good when she was betrayed. Is she a Bond girl, or a female fatale???
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8. RE: TWINE
Mar 25 2008, 11:04 AM EDT
the world is not enough has two main villains: Renard and Elektra.The same happens in The Living Daylights in wich we have two main villains: Brad Whitaker and General Georgi Koskov Do you find this valuable? |
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9. RE: TWINE
Jul 15 2008, 2:47 AM EDT
yes ture but in thunderball there was blofelt and num 2 [No Jokes]
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S3N70R |
10. RE: TWINE
Sep 9 2008, 1:41 AM EDT
"Just as there were two in "The Living Daylights" (Whittaker and Koskov), there are two in TWINE (Elektra and Renard)--the two completed each other and you can't have one without the other. That's what Purvis and Wade did to put a spin on the formula--make a Bond-girl one of the main villains (though they'd been hench-people before). The better question to ask is: "What is Octopussy?" She's a Bond-girl, but isn't she a villain as well?"No I think Octopussy is a good bond girl i mean she didn't even know that khamal or whatever his name is was trying to kill people. and remember after she found out she went with her ladies and tried to kick his butt. So Iagree i think she is a GOOD bond girl not a bad one. Do you find this valuable? |
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11. RE: TWINE
Sep 9 2008, 4:07 PM EDT
"Also, in Casino Royale, Mr. White and Le Chiffre are both the main villains."I would call Mr. White a villain that sets up the main villain, a controller or over-villain. Le Chiffe in the end is a puppet and Mr. White pulls the strings but in the end there's someone pulling Mr. White's strings too. Do you find this valuable? |
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S3N70R |
12. RE: TWINE
Sep 11 2008, 12:51 AM EDT
"I would call Mr. White a villain that sets up the main villain, a controller or over-villain. Le Chiffe in the end is a puppet and Mr. White pulls the strings but in the end there's someone pulling Mr. White's strings too."I Agree i think we'll find out about him in QOS Do you find this valuable? |
