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Posted Anonymously
20. RE: M - who set the standard?
May 15 2008, 5:32 PM EDT | Post edited: May 15 2008, 5:32 PM EDT
"But Judy Dench got right to the point and was a strict Bond. On The World is Not Enough when judy escaped, let see Bernard Lee do that!

>>>>God Save The Queen<<<<"
Yeah, Bernard lee is great, but I also like Judy Dench. I know this isnt about M, but where has Q been? He isnt gonna be in the next movie either.
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007-MI6
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21. RE: M - who set the standard?
May 15 2008, 5:35 PM EDT | Post edited: May 15 2008, 5:35 PM EDT
"Yeah, Bernard lee is great, but I also like Judy Dench. I know this isnt about M, but where has Q been? He isnt gonna be in the next movie either."
oops, forgot to sign in when i posted that.
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CodeNamePredator
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22. RE: M - who set the standard?
May 18 2008, 6:07 PM EDT | Post edited: May 18 2008, 6:07 PM EDT
Bernard Lee played it as Fleming invented it. If Fleming had made M a woman, I would be a bit more forgiving. Judi Dench- great actor but Fleming made M a man. End of story Do you find this valuable?    
Cedric(006)
Cedric(006)
23. RE: M - who set the standard?
Jun 2 2008, 9:41 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 2 2008, 9:41 PM EDT
"Well, she escaped when Bond shot the lock on her prison door with his P99. I think you're referring to how she jumpered the 9 volt battery on the tracker chip that came out of the warhead.

I think what you're suggesting would have been quite do-able and it would have been great fun to watch. Just a little more thinking outside the box in the Connery/Moore era."
Thanks for correcting me MK. Yes Judi is truely one of those leader who "can do it by herself, thank you." Who I don't think people give a lot of credit to is good ole' Robert Brown. Now Im not saying he was the best (Judi is) but he did keep the face of MI6 alive and well. You cant tell me he was horrible. He was OK, not the best, but a respectable 3rd.

>>>>GSTQ<<<<
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lg007
lg007
24. RE: M - who set the standard?
Jun 23 2008, 1:40 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 23 2008, 1:40 AM EDT
Judi Dench and Robert Brown were excellent Ms, but i personally thing Bernard Lee set the standard . Do you find this valuable?    
sean.7
sean.7
25. RE: M - who set the standard?
Jun 23 2008, 5:30 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 23 2008, 5:30 PM EDT
" He was OK, not the best, but a respectable 3rd.

>>>>GSTQ<<<<"
Then again, there were only three M's.

But yes, I love your point (expect a compliment). Robert Brown does deserve credit for all that you said. But also for going through Dalton. Not because of Dalton as a actor (he was one of the few greats) but because of Daltons portrayle of Bond. Dalton protrayed a hard ass, fight kicking machine, whose arrigence almost led to a war amungst MI6 and the United Drug Dealers Around The World.

Sean.7
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vid
vid
26. RE: M - who set the standard?
Jul 1 2008, 1:27 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 1 2008, 1:27 AM EDT
"Then again, there were only three M's.

But yes, I love your point (expect a compliment). Robert Brown does deserve credit for all that you said. But also for going through Dalton. Not because of Dalton as a actor (he was one of the few greats) but because of Daltons portrayle of Bond. Dalton protrayed a hard ass, fight kicking machine, whose arrigence almost led to a war amungst MI6 and the United Drug Dealers Around The World.

Sean.7"
There Was 4 M's If You Count Never Say Never Again.And As M Would Say ''O God I Miss The Cold War'' M CR

''Now The Hole World Will Know You Died Scraching My BALLS'' James Bond CR
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moore4ever
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27. RE: M - who set the standard?
Jul 3 2008, 11:23 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 3 2008, 11:23 AM EDT
Nothing against Judi, but I don't wanna see her past Bernard's record of 11 times as M. As of now shes been M for 6 movies mabye going on 7 for Bond-23. Honor Bernard by noting to 11 films.
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vid
vid
28. RE: M - who set the standard?
Jul 4 2008, 4:19 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 4 2008, 4:19 AM EDT
"Nothing against Judi, but I don't wanna see her past Bernard's record of 11 times as M. As of now shes been M for 6 movies mabye going on 7 for Bond-23. Honor Bernard by noting to 11 films.
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the rumor is that bond 23 is her last bond flim

''Now The Hole World Will Know You Died Scraching My BALLS'' James Bond CR
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omibond
omibond
29. RE: M - who set the standard?
Jul 15 2008, 5:17 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 15 2008, 5:17 PM EDT
i heard her last bond film will be bond 23...anyways, i think the best was brenard lee also..he just had a feature that made him the best. dench is good and all, but she doesnt seem likes she fits the part..she its still very good though! Do you find this valuable?    

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30. RE: M - who set the standard?
Jul 30 2008, 4:54 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 30 2008, 4:54 AM EDT
"But Judy Dench got right to the point and was a strict Bond. On The World is Not Enough when judy escaped, let see Bernard Lee do that!"
I completely agree, Bernard Lee was a brilliant M but Judi Dench just brings it to another level, she gets more involved in the action like in TWINE, whereas Bernard Lee was a good M but got sidelined, its not his fault its the writers but Judi's the best
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calvtob14
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31. RE: M - who set the standard?
Jul 30 2008, 5:31 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 30 2008, 5:31 PM EDT
Judy Dench. I wasn't a big fan of her in the B rosnan years, however with CR she showed her true colours. Do you find this valuable?    
koolkikij
koolkikij
32. RE: M - who set the standard?
Sep 2 2008, 2:35 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 2 2008, 2:35 PM EDT
i think bernard lee was the best. judi dench comes in a very close second. Do you find this valuable?    

Posted Anonymously
33. RE: M - who set the standard?
Sep 3 2008, 8:18 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 3 2008, 8:18 PM EDT
"i dissagree i think judy dench is a great <M>"
Ditto- she's the best since Lee. Even mentioning the others is pointless- they contributed zip to the films. I always saw Lois as Moneypenny and some substitute
who definitely never came off as an "M". That didn't happen until Dench- may she be in the next 20 Bonds! She's good in all she's done (Especially
"As Time Goes by"- I was very pleased to see her co-star from that appear with her in TND). Her edge in CR with the newly christened 007 was masterful,
and it's very cool to see her M warming to him- sort of the start of a partnership of sorts. Can't wait for QOS!! BP (...sorry for the late reply to this post)
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34. RE: M - who set the standard?
Sep 9 2008, 2:38 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 9 2008, 2:38 AM EDT
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he definitely was the best but i think Dame Judi Dench's is the second best
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35. RE: M - who set the standard?
Sep 14 2008, 8:20 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 14 2008, 8:20 PM EDT
I totally agree with that.
1- Bernard Lee
2- Judi Dench
3- Robert Brown
I think Micheal Caine should be the next M. He would be great
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mkfreeberg
mkfreeberg
36. RE: M - who set the standard?
Sep 14 2008, 9:06 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 14 2008, 9:06 PM EDT
"I think Micheal Caine should be the next M. He would be great"
Mmmm. Great actor. Wonderful man.

Not a terribly good idea, though. Sorry.
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AdmlC.
37. RE: M - who set the standard?
Sep 14 2008, 11:19 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 14 2008, 11:19 PM EDT
Sorry to disagree old man but Micheal Caine would be an excellent M...a very versatile and accomplished actor,no stranger to spy/thriller films..and about the right age(now) for a former Vice Admiral in charge of Mi6...
if he played it serious, I'd love to see it happen!
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mkfreeberg
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38. RE: M - who set the standard?
Sep 15 2008, 12:45 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 15 2008, 12:45 AM EDT
Hey, you're more well-read on the original novels than I am, and what a boring world it would be if we all agreed.

To me, Bernard Lee will always be the yardstick because you always got the feeling if there was a short list of situations in which Bond lost some of his confidence, being grilled by M would be on that list. Now, when I say Michael Caine is a wonderful actor, I have a list of films in mind he has done; none of them involve a role that exude this kind of gruff paternal edge. Not like...that first scene in Dr. No where he takes "that damn Beretta" away.

I would further add this is what makes Judi Dench so great. It's like this: Bond can stare down a gunbarrel, he can stare down a champion poker player...he'd much rather be someplace else when he's looking at M from across a desk.

That isn't Michael Caine's signature role. He plays people that you, the audience, are to some extent pretending to be. And that would ruin the character of M. M does not wonder what Bond is going to do. Bond wonders what M is going to do.
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AdmlC.
39. RE: M - who set the standard?
Sep 15 2008, 7:25 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 15 2008, 7:25 PM EDT
I totally agree that Bernard Lee set the standard and will never be topped.His interplay with Connery is VERY like the books.
Also that Judi Dench is doing a fine job as M,bringing a more serious take back to the part.
I just think that as an accomplished actor Caine could fill the part if Dench left and bring that gruff paternal Lee-ishness to the part.Just because hes never done a role like that - does'nt mean he can't.
And to para-phrase Fleming,"A boring world is not enough!" Cheers!
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