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40. RE: "Casino Royale": Worst Bond Film Ever, Part 1
Nov 18 2008, 11:51 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 18 2008, 11:51 PM EST
no no no. this film is atleast in the top three best james bond movies. i hear some people talking about it didnt have enought gadgets in it. im sorry but when they put all the bullcrap in the cars he drives it goes way down the corny crapper. this film has the hottest girl so far also. 1  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
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beatlehead
41. RE: "Casino Royale": Worst Bond Film Ever, Part 1
Nov 18 2008, 11:59 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 18 2008, 11:59 PM EST
"this film is atleast in the top three best james bond movies. this film has the hottest girl so far also. "
Caterina Murino is absolutely gorgeous.
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AtomHeartMother
42. RE: "Casino Royale": Worst Bond Film Ever, Part 1
Dec 6 2008, 9:17 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 6 2008, 9:17 AM EST
Hey, This is my first post here, and It appears that I will be very unpopular once people read this.
The first bond movie I ever saw was Golden Eye. I was instantly hooked.
When I was in high school, Die Another Day came out. I saw it in theatres, and I still to this day remember what the first words that I said afterwards were: "What the hell was that?"
It was to fantastical. An Invisible car, and a chase scene in which James Bond is being chased by the sun?!
Then CR came out. I don't remember my exact words, but I am sure they were similar.
Where is Q? I am not asking for an invisible car, but what about a really cool watch?
Wasn't James Bond once Charismatic?
Hasn't James Bond already met Felix for the first time?
I know that he is supposed to be cold and ruthless, but to change bond's charactor so abrubtly betrays some of the fans who have been fans since the 60's. (this is not an opinion)
Vesper is not the most attracive bond girl, by far. Ursula Andress?Jane Seymour? Barbara Bach? and as bad as she was, Haley Berry? But her strong personality makes up for it. I give vesper a 7/10.
Where is the cool hide out? Mountain Top Castle ? Underwater lair? Space Station? Volcano? Ice Hotel? Really Cool Train?
I liked the Intro, I liked the Villans, but that is about all I liked about this movie.

Verdict - Of the 22 bond movies, I put CR somewhere in the bottom half.
Any one who says that this is the worst needs to watch the last 3 roger moore films again.
Any one who says that this is the best needs to watch Golden Eye, Goldfinger, Live and Let Die, The living Daylights, Dr. No, From Russia with love, and The Spy Who Loved Me again.
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43. RE: "Casino Royale": Worst Bond Film Ever, Part 1
Dec 6 2008, 9:41 AM EST | Post edited: Dec 6 2008, 9:41 AM EST
"Of the 22 bond movies, I put CR somewhere in the bottom half.
Any one who says that this is the best needs to watch Golden Eye, Goldfinger, Live and Let Die, The living Daylights, Dr. No, From Russia with love, and The Spy Who Loved Me again."
Why would anyone watch LIVE AND LET DIE again??
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JustinAtheropinion
44. RE: "Casino Royale": Worst Bond Film Ever, Part 1
Feb 8 2009, 11:13 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 8 2009, 11:13 PM EST
Agreed. "Live and Let Die" is a listless effort. It's characterizations are thin and rather than delving into characters they skim through the script going from action sequence to action sequence, not unlike "Quantum of Solace," actually. And "The Spy Who Loved Me" has not aged at all well through the years. I would direct the poster to OHMSS, instead. Do you find this valuable?    

Posted Anonymously
45. RE: "Casino Royale": Worst Bond Film Ever, Part 1
Feb 9 2009, 12:19 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 9 2009, 12:19 AM EST
"Agreed. "Live and Let Die" is a listless effort. It's characterizations are thin and rather than delving into characters they skim through the script going from action sequence to action sequence, not unlike "Quantum of Solace," actually. And "The Spy Who Loved Me" has not aged at all well through the years. I would direct the poster to OHMSS, instead. "
I like them both.
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007FANATIC
46. RE: "Casino Royale": Worst Bond Film Ever, Part 1
Feb 28 2009, 1:16 PM EST | Post edited: Apr 2 2009, 7:32 PM EDT
"“Casino Royale”: An Obituary for The James Bond Film Franchise

[warning: review contains spoilers]



Ever notice that the 007 films produced after “Goldeneye” seem to get worse and worse in significant critical, creative respects like screenplay quality, casting decisions, etc.? With “Casino Royale,” the franchise hits rock bottom. “Casino Royale” is, objectively, the worst James Bond film in the history of the 007 film franchise. Why?



1) Story: Based, more or less, on Ian Fleming’s original novel, this unskillful adaptation/update is communicated with a disdain for clarity. The audience is fed too little information, too late (or not at all)—about both character motivations as well as the stakes involved in various action sequences—to remain emotionally engaged and genuinely interested in what’s going on.

2) Casting/characterization: lacks conviction and appeal

• Daniel Craig (Bond). Craig’s characterization of Bond is charmless, worthless, and disturbingly nihilistic. At one point in the script, Craig’s Bond responds to a question with “Do I look like I give a damn?” The answer in “Casino Royale” is overwhelmingly NO. Why on earth, then, should the audience care about him? At another point, he tells Vesper “I have no idea what an honest job is.” Is this a credible (or creditable) moral statement to hear from a top-level government secret agent? Craig’s monotonously stoic performance is by no means compensated for by his (atrocious) line readings: he articulates rarely, mumbles often. As a result of Craig’s hollow Bond interpretation, what should have been the film’s ultimate impact moment—007’s “Bond, James Bond” confrontation with villainous Mr. White—is surprisingly anti-climactic, prompting a shrug rather than a cheer from this reviewer. "
HELL NO! CR IS ONE OF THE BEST BOND MOVIES EVER!
YOU ARE WRONG! YOU ARE NOT A TRUE BOND FAN. PERIOD.
007 FOREVER!!!
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Posted Anonymously
47. RE: "Casino Royale": Worst Bond Film Ever, Part 1
Mar 1 2009, 9:43 PM EST | Post edited: Mar 1 2009, 9:43 PM EST
"what ar you talking casino royale is the best film since goldfinger and ohmss"
Yea Casino Royale and Goldfinger are definitely my 2 favourite Bond movies. I also really like Thunderball and I think Goldeneye was awesome too, but by Die Another Day they were getting kinda dismal. The invisible car was a bit of a stretch in my opinion. I prefered the gadget-laden car that Connery had; oil slick, smoke screen, etc.
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spywholuvsu
48. RE: "Casino Royale": Worst Bond Film Ever, Part 1
Mar 2 2009, 1:43 PM EST | Post edited: Mar 2 2009, 1:43 PM EST
"“Casino Royale”: An Obituary for The James Bond Film Franchise

[warning: review contains spoilers]



Ever notice that the 007 films produced after “Goldeneye” seem to get worse and worse in significant critical, creative respects like screenplay quality, casting decisions, etc.? With “Casino Royale,” the franchise hits rock bottom. “Casino Royale” is, objectively, the worst James Bond film in the history of the 007 film franchise. Why?



1) Story: Based, more or less, on Ian Fleming’s original novel, this unskillful adaptation/update is communicated with a disdain for clarity. The audience is fed too little information, too late (or not at all)—about both character motivations as well as the stakes involved in various action sequences—to remain emotionally engaged and genuinely interested in what’s going on.

2) Casting/characterization: lacks conviction and appeal

• Daniel Craig (Bond). Craig’s characterization of Bond is charmless, worthless, and disturbingly nihilistic. At one point in the script, Craig’s Bond responds to a question with “Do I look like I give a damn?” The answer in “Casino Royale” is overwhelmingly NO. Why on earth, then, should the audience care about him? At another point, he tells Vesper “I have no idea what an honest job is.” Is this a credible (or creditable) moral statement to hear from a top-level government secret agent? Craig’s monotonously stoic performance is by no means compensated for by his (atrocious) line readings: he articulates rarely, mumbles often. As a result of Craig’s hollow Bond interpretation, what should have been the film’s ultimate impact moment—007’s “Bond, James Bond” confrontation with villainous Mr. White—is surprisingly anti-climactic, prompting a shrug rather than a cheer from this reviewer.

[see Part 2 for continuance]"
u must b from the same planet that the anons r from, 'PLUTO'. Tha ERN (008)
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spywholuvsu
49. RE: "Casino Royale": Worst Bond Film Ever, Part 1
Mar 2 2009, 1:45 PM EST | Post edited: Mar 2 2009, 1:45 PM EST
"I have found that the Bond films after "Goldeneye" had steadily gone down-hill. That is why "Casino Royale" was such a pleasant surprise.

You're hardly objective in your criticism. You sound like you went in expecting the worse ("The movies have been going downhill since 'Goldeneye'") --or hoping for it because of your list of expectations, which I can hardly credit as being anything useful, as you seem to have missed the mark on what was there.

1) I judge a good Bond movie on if it actually IMPROVES on Fleming, and "Casino Royale" certainly did. If you're just cataloging the stunts and witticisms you expect I'm sure the movie seems unclear. It actually couldn't be MORE clear about what is going on from moment to moment--except in the final actions of Vesper, which should be as much of a surprise to us as it is to Bond. Why Vesper does what she does is explained in the suicide note (in the novel), but, frankly, Fleming's explanation turns Vesper into a weak character. I am anticipating Bond 22 for what Purvis, Wade and Haggis come up with.
One of the most brilliant things they did in the film was substitute Vesper for Fleming's "blanket of nails" in the chase away from the Casino. That is a perfect example of showing character motivation through action.

2) Obviously you're in the minority on this one, as the critical reception and box office figures show that folks thought Craig was a breath of fresh air. "Charmless, worthless and disturbingly nihilistic?" Examples please, certainly better ones than those cited in your continuation. "Do I look like I give a damn?" is a perfect thing for the man who has just lost EVERYTHING in a poker games. What? You want a one-liner? Rediculous! And I think it's perfectly acceptable for a "black ops" spy to not know what a respectable job is!
Sorry, chum! Not buying it!"
i concur. i'm not buying it either. Tha ERN (008)
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spywholuvsu
50. RE: "Casino Royale": Worst Bond Film Ever, Part 1
Mar 2 2009, 1:46 PM EST | Post edited: Mar 2 2009, 1:46 PM EST
"Yeah. I mean Die Another Day was pretty bad, and so was the World is Not enough. But I think Tommorow Never Dies and Casino Royale earn a little respect. I mean, TND had a good script, some OK scenes and excellent casting. Casino Royale wasn' t that bad. I actually loved Craig in his role. Wasn't CR the darkest Bond book??? Shouldn't the Bond in the movie be just a little bit colder and tougher???"
YESSSSSSSS mi amigo. Tha ERN (008)
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spywholuvsu
51. RE: "Casino Royale": Worst Bond Film Ever, Part 1
Mar 2 2009, 1:49 PM EST | Post edited: Mar 2 2009, 1:49 PM EST
"I reread all the books in order right through to devil may care and i thought Casino Royale the movie and Craigs Bond were very good interpretatons of the book. I wasnt at all disappointed. Now then....i garantee that afte QoS that the Bond movies will continue where Brosnan left off and Craig will start adding a bit of humour to the role."
jeez i hope not. just as we were gettin' a bit of fresh air 4 once. 'Tha ERN (008)
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spywholuvsu
52. RE: "Casino Royale": Worst Bond Film Ever, Part 1
Mar 2 2009, 1:53 PM EST | Post edited: Mar 2 2009, 1:53 PM EST
"I totally agree james bond got alot worse after goldeneye. The whole humor got canned, the casting is dreadfull since tomorrow never dies and beyond. I agree we hit rock bottom with Craig. He just isn't suited for the james bond part. To be honest Brosnan didnt come close to moore or connery but for the modern style bond he was 10 times better than this garbage. I'd recommend the new director of the bond movies to watch the old ones because the movies are getting messed up with this new course."
i've heard of opines, but jeez. u 2 really take the whole enchilada. u 2 must have crashed in2 a satellite or something. on ur way back from 'PLUTO'. Tha ERN (008)
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spywholuvsu
53. RE: "Casino Royale": Worst Bond Film Ever, Part 1
Mar 2 2009, 1:59 PM EST | Post edited: Mar 2 2009, 1:59 PM EST
"You've got to be kidding!"

c my post, ' worst bond movie ever, i totally agree', 2 the anons. these 2 jezebels r very 'PLUTONIAN' by nature. Tha ERN (008)
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spywholuvsu
54. RE: "Casino Royale": Worst Bond Film Ever, Part 1
Mar 2 2009, 2:01 PM EST | Post edited: Mar 2 2009, 2:01 PM EST
"These "anonymous" guys are just trolls. I don't think they really exist. I think they're just robots marketing some kind of erectile dysfunction remedy or home re-financing thing.

Casino Royale is awesome. As a book, and as a movie. And Craig is da bomb."
i quite agree w/ u my man. they must b from 'TRON'? Tha ERN (008)
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spywholuvsu
55. RE: "Casino Royale": Worst Bond Film Ever, Part 1
Mar 2 2009, 2:02 PM EST | Post edited: Mar 2 2009, 2:02 PM EST
"I wonder if you can read or even understand what the word objective means? CR is easily in the top five Bond films and fights with From Russia With Love for the most Fleming like depiction of character and plot. I think you've watched Octopussy, Moonraker and Never Say Never Again too many times. Get a grip son"
i don't think that u have 1. that's why u slip so much anonian. Tha ERN (008)
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spywholuvsu
56. RE: "Casino Royale": Worst Bond Film Ever, Part 1
Mar 2 2009, 2:04 PM EST | Post edited: Mar 2 2009, 2:04 PM EST
"At least it didn't have an invisible car! Now THAT's stupid!!!"
tell 'em dear, tell 'em like it is, and not was'nt. Tha ERN (008)
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spywholuvsu
57. RE: "Casino Royale": Worst Bond Film Ever, Part 1
Mar 2 2009, 2:07 PM EST | Post edited: Mar 2 2009, 2:07 PM EST
"Without being verbose, I am and have been a huge Bond fan and I consider Casino Royale with Daniel Craig as the best Bond film to date. It's the only Bond film I've watched for 20+ time and still can't get enough. I can't wait for Quantum later this month!!! "
u must b the 'BETTER' half of the anonians. ur stock went up 2 pts.. just. Tha ERN (008)
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spywholuvsu
58. RE: "Casino Royale": Worst Bond Film Ever, Part 1
Mar 2 2009, 2:10 PM EST | Post edited: Mar 2 2009, 2:10 PM EST
"What I find interesting is that all of the naysayers don't seem to realize that the reason Craig's Bond is portrayed as flawed and not the perfect, suave Bond that we're used to seeing is because Craig's Bond isn't at that point in his life yet. CR was Bond's first movie as a 00 Agent, and let's face it, he is flawed. He's very flawed. Because he got his heart broken he's a wuss? That's ridiculous. Because he got his heart broken is the reason why he goes on to be the womanizing, smooth, witty and nearly flawless person we've already met in the majority of the Bond films previous. Nobody is that perfect, they had to get their start somewhere! "
u're stock just crashed ! remember, it was Bond @ the begining, what can u expect? it was'nt Craigs fault. Tha ERN (008)
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spywholuvsu
59. RE: "Casino Royale": Worst Bond Film Ever, Part 1
Mar 2 2009, 2:11 PM EST | Post edited: Mar 2 2009, 2:11 PM EST
"Caterina Murino is absolutely gorgeous. "
my but she izzzzzz ! Tha ERN (008)
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