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VodkaMartini
VodkaMartini
Tied of this new brainless assassin Bond?
Jan 30 2010, 8:21 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 30 2010, 8:21 PM EST
I am!
The Daniel Craig Bond is so far removed from the suave, sophisticated, smart, cool, playboy who always says the "My name is Bond, James Bond" line and who ALWAYS gets the girl! The Craig/Bond character has all the charm and sophistication of a bulldozer, and all the sex appeal of a social disease! It is unimaginable that this new Bond would have a degree in Oriental Languages from Cambridge, would know the correct drinking temperature for Saki or would care what vintage of Champagne he was drinking.
When the Craig/Bond didn't even bother with the girl in the red dress in Casino Royale, and decided he'd rather go and kill someone - he lost all credence as the Bond we know and love. Our Bond would have made time for the girl and a Vodka Martini, and only then, gone off to deal with the bad guys.
Also, what has happened to the the cute one-liners, the thinly veiled sexual innuendo, the ingenious gadgetry, the tediously slow and easily escapable death devises and the chic, smooth stud-muffin over whom we women have been swooning for over 40 years?
Gratuitous violence and spectacular CGI is not match for a really good story and a great script.
Please bring back the old Bond - this new one is just another thug!
P.S. And please, no more of those ball-bashing torture scenes - it's just very gross and off-putting - this is supposed to be fun - right!
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6-stringa007
6-stringa007
1. RE: Tied of this new brainless assassin Bond?
Jan 30 2010, 8:36 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 30 2010, 8:36 PM EST
Casino Royale was a return to the original style of Bond demonstrated in Ian Fleming's novels and the very first 2 movies Dr. No and From Russia With Love. The "ingenious gadgetery and tediously slow and easily escapable death devices" didn't really come into full effect until Goldfinger and Thunderball. The first 2 movies were a lot grittier/spy-based, with some actual espionage - which is what I like about Casino Royale - as opposed to having another madman trying to rule/take over the world, etc.
Plus Casino Royale is at the beginning of Bond's career as a 00-agent, so he is not yet the full-fledged character we all know and love. He was getting there by the end of the film, and was even closer by the end of Quantum Of Solace.
This means that more "tradition" can be introduced into the next couple of films (can't wait!) such as Moneypenny, Q, etc. However at the moment Bond is back to his roots and its fantastic! Much better than that invisible car and all that unconvincing CGI from Die Another Day...
Daniel Craig is a great new Bond and here to stay. Not necessarily trying to argue here, just saying; there's nothing wrong with returning to the influences/style that got the Bond series started and made it work in the first place!
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Posted Anonymously
2. RE: Tied of this new brainless assassin Bond?
Feb 2 2010, 10:35 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 2 2010, 10:35 AM EST
i agree this should be fun and it is a movie after all,BUT there have been times when straying to far from the books and DN/FRWL (my faves) type of espionage films was just wrong.i know EON is trying to make money and please a wide variety of the audience but Bond's return to more of the book 007 is to me,very welcome.
CR was more in line with the early films and book plots where QoS was more like a "action" movie. the "blunt instrument" thing was carried too far.007 is a thinking trained agent,if he was nothing but a thug...there'd be no depth to him,and what fun is that.
ps.theres a torture scene in every book.
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3. RE: Tied of this new brainless assassin Bond?
Jun 8 2012, 10:50 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 8 2012, 10:50 AM EDT
"I am!
The Daniel Craig Bond is so far removed from the suave, sophisticated, smart, cool, playboy who always says the "My name is Bond, James Bond" line and who ALWAYS gets the girl! The Craig/Bond character has all the charm and sophistication of a bulldozer, and all the sex appeal of a social disease! It is unimaginable that this new Bond would have a degree in Oriental Languages from Cambridge, would know the correct drinking temperature for Saki or would care what vintage of Champagne he was drinking.
When the Craig/Bond didn't even bother with the girl in the red dress in Casino Royale, and decided he'd rather go and kill someone - he lost all credence as the Bond we know and love. Our Bond would have made time for the girl and a Vodka Martini, and only then, gone off to deal with the bad guys.
Also, what has happened to the the cute one-liners, the thinly veiled sexual innuendo, the ingenious gadgetry, the tediously slow and easily escapable death devises and the chic, smooth stud-muffin over whom we women have been swooning for over 40 years?
Gratuitous violence and spectacular CGI is not match for a really good story and a great script.
Please bring back the old Bond - this new one is just another thug!
P.S. And please, no more of those ball-bashing torture scenes - it's just very gross and off-putting - this is supposed to be fun - right!"
My name is John. Hi. I think that your idea of 007 is very different from mine. 007 is a soldier. There's really no way of dancing around that fact. He serves in MI6, the British equivalent of the CIA. Today, it just so happens that one of the biggest threats to the international community is terrorism. Now I think it's only fitting to make James Bond just an ordinary man fulfilling his duty. Imagine how many acts of terrorism would have been fulfilled if the people charged with protecting us today stopped for martinis and to bed women before acting.
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bjameso
bjameso
4. RE: Tied of this new brainless assassin Bond?
Sep 23 2012, 10:38 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 23 2012, 10:38 PM EDT
"I am!
The Daniel Craig Bond is so far removed from the suave, sophisticated, smart, cool, playboy who always says the "My name is Bond, James Bond" line and who ALWAYS gets the girl! The Craig/Bond character has all the charm and sophistication of a bulldozer, and all the sex appeal of a social disease! It is unimaginable that this new Bond would have a degree in Oriental Languages from Cambridge, would know the correct drinking temperature for Saki or would care what vintage of Champagne he was drinking.
When the Craig/Bond didn't even bother with the girl in the red dress in Casino Royale, and decided he'd rather go and kill someone - he lost all credence as the Bond we know and love. Our Bond would have made time for the girl and a Vodka Martini, and only then, gone off to deal with the bad guys.
Also, what has happened to the the cute one-liners, the thinly veiled sexual innuendo, the ingenious gadgetry, the tediously slow and easily escapable death devises and the chic, smooth stud-muffin over whom we women have been swooning for over 40 years?
Gratuitous violence and spectacular CGI is not match for a really good story and a great script.
Please bring back the old Bond - this new one is just another thug!
P.S. And please, no more of those ball-bashing torture scenes - it's just very gross and off-putting - this is supposed to be fun - right!"
Hit the nail right on the Head.
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DaltonCraigRules
DaltonCraigRules
5. RE: Tied of this new brainless assassin Bond?
Sep 27 2012, 11:26 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 27 2012, 11:26 AM EDT
"Tied of this new brainless assassin Bond?"
How is he brainless? He wouldn't have been able to get out of the situations he confronted without a brain. There is more focus on his personal strengths rather than on gadgetry, he's not a 60's / 70's relic.
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"Gratuitous violence and spectacular CGI is not match for a really good story and a great script."

Yeah, true, that's the exact reason why Casino Royale succeeded so brilliantly.
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"When the Craig/Bond didn't even bother with the girl in the red dress in Casino Royale"

Her name is Vesper, have some respect.
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"this is supposed to be fun - right!"

You had your fun with Pierce Brosnan. Craig's Bond is meant to be taken seriously and that's perfectly fine.
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Mr_Univers
Mr_Univers
6. RE: Tied of this new brainless assassin Bond?
Nov 21 2012, 1:47 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 21 2012, 1:47 AM EST
"I am!
The Daniel Craig Bond is so far removed from the suave, sophisticated, smart, cool, playboy who always says the "My name is Bond, James Bond" line and who ALWAYS gets the girl! The Craig/Bond character has all the charm and sophistication of a bulldozer, and all the sex appeal of a social disease! It is unimaginable that this new Bond would have a degree in Oriental Languages from Cambridge, would know the correct drinking temperature for Saki or would care what vintage of Champagne he was drinking.
When the Craig/Bond didn't even bother with the girl in the red dress in Casino Royale, and decided he'd rather go and kill someone - he lost all credence as the Bond we know and love. Our Bond would have made time for the girl and a Vodka Martini, and only then, gone off to deal with the bad guys.
Also, what has happened to the the cute one-liners, the thinly veiled sexual innuendo, the ingenious gadgetry, the tediously slow and easily escapable death devises and the chic, smooth stud-muffin over whom we women have been swooning for over 40 years?
Gratuitous violence and spectacular CGI is not match for a really good story and a great script.
Please bring back the old Bond - this new one is just another thug!
P.S. And please, no more of those ball-bashing torture scenes - it's just very gross and off-putting - this is supposed to be fun - right!"
I think Craig's Bond is the closest representation to Fleming's initial depiction of the world's most famous agent. That being said, I wouldn't mind seeing Craig lighten up a bit. I never really cared much for the campy Roger Moore era Bond although 'The Spy Who Loved Me' is still one of my favourites.

And c'mon, that was the perfect martini in Casino Royale.
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