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The Tokarev.
Nov 11 2009, 9:30 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 11 2009, 9:30 AM EST
Spectacularly accurate and rugged gun that in the fifties would have been struck from the list for one primary issue that would preclude it being carried as an every day defensive sidearm. The original Tokarev design did not include a safety, and a chambered round would have the hammer sitting right on it. This may not be a big issue in wartime, where you could chamber a round before going into battle. But this would be a dangerous weapon to carry in a shoulder holster. The TT was also single action, meaning the hammer would have to be pulled back before firing - the PPK is a double action gun.

The TT could be modified to have a safety, magazine safety, and some type of decocking device. Soviet satellite countries eventually did this, and safer versions of the TT were available later. But this would not have been the case in the fifties. The Mauser cartridge would be a bit of a hindrance, but not as much as the safety / single action design feature set.
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1. RE: The Tokarev.
Dec 28 2009, 1:27 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 28 2009, 1:27 PM EST
Everything you mention is true. However TT-33s served in "Special" Com-bloc security forces for quite some time. Reckless methods for reckless folks. The Chinese "Armed Police", Bulgarian security and Romanian FPU used shoulder holsters for the TT-33.
With such a hot cartridge, firing one inside a room must have been deafing.
Most were kept in service until (somewhat) silenced versions of the Makarov (PM).
As you say, it would have been a horrible carry piece.
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2. RE: The Tokarev.
Jul 12 2010, 2:46 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 12 2010, 2:46 PM EDT
The Tokarev had a half-**** safety since its inception, so no, you don't have to carry it with the hammer in contact with the firing pin. At half-**** (which is actually quite a bit less than half of the way back) it will not fire without first drawing the hammer back to full ****, which must be done manually. Carry it with a round in the chamber in half-****, and it's nearly as safe as a Condition 1 1911, and only slightly slower to bring into action. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    

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3. RE: The Tokarev.
Jul 12 2010, 2:46 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 12 2010, 2:46 PM EDT
Also, it doesn't seem to recognize the fact that c o c k in this usage is not a dirty word. Ah well. Do you find this valuable?    

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