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1. RE: One of my favorites
Apr 17 2009, 6:02 PM EDT
This is great. Moore is ultra cool. He even displays a hard edge when he whacks Maud. Any movie with Sheriff JW Pepper & Nick Nack is gonna do well. They are both fantastic characters!
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TigerAtaru |
2. RE: One of my favorites
Apr 17 2009, 8:24 PM EDT
"I know just about everyone would beg to differ but I love this one. One of my favorite scenes is when M repeatedly tells Q to shut up as Bond tells M that Scaramanga got away. Funny."Agreed: this movie is just Moore finally coming to character and just plain fun from start to finish. Many hate this movie but those people I say just "don't get it". Do you find this valuable? |
hyperjet |
3. RE: One of my favorites
Apr 17 2009, 10:05 PM EDT
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"Agreed: this movie is just Moore finally coming to character and just plain fun from start to finish. Many hate this movie but those people I say just "don't get it"."You are correct. Though I like the premise of this film, there are some things I just don't get. I'll go with one scene: Bond is in Thailand and all of the police there drive AMC Matadors. Sheriff Pepper (who wore out his welcome in the previous movie) is now with Bond in the nerdiest car in 007 history (another AMC, not to be confused with the AMC with the wings). Then there's the perfectly contoured bridge ruins and the **Yeach!!** slide whistle. Then Pepper gets disgarded without any heroics from his part,; making his appearance totally benign and unnecessary (the only reason he appeared in LALD was to have a white idiot). They need to sell a version of this movie with this whole part seemlessly cut out. Then I may actually consider buying it. And wasn't there a part where he sneaked into the villain's estate by just putting on a fake nipple? Is it really that easy?? I'm sorry. Now I'm all worked up. I won't say it was a horrible movie. The island and some of the locations were great; just another opportunity ruined. It seems like all of these films from that era had two intelligent writers and one writer with an IQ of 60. And they all get equal input... 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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4. RE: One of my favorites
Apr 18 2009, 12:42 AM EDT
TMWTGG is bottom of the barrel Bond.
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TigerAtaru |
5. RE: One of my favorites
Apr 18 2009, 7:38 AM EDT
"You are correct. Though I like the premise of this film, there are some things I just don't get."I actually liked Peppers a bit more in this movie than I did in LALD: he's a confused tourist and just adds to the confusion being a man lost in a strange country with chaos running around him and that crazy 007 guy in the middle of all it. (I did like him in LALD, BTW) And don't kill me on the AMCs: sometimes I like it more when Bond and the movie does incredible things with normal cars of the time period like that than some of the super cars that they try to use. (sort of akin to using a Delorean for a time-machine) The nipple bit was weird but it made sense to me too: most people probably didn't even know what Scarmanga looked like and just assumed "if he has a third nipple, then it's him". Therefore tricking a guard like that was easy...particularly when Hai Fat knew who the real Scarmanga was and used Bond's infiltration to his advantage. As for the locations...I thought they were neat and more intriguing. I've seen Bond movies where a good location is used badly (Amsterdam, Berlin) and I've seen others where the location is just "blech" no matter how good the movie is (St. Petersburg). So to me, seeing Macau, Hong Kong and Bangkok here were really unique...and therefore cool. Do you find this valuable? |
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hyperjet |
6. RE: One of my favorites
Apr 18 2009, 8:46 AM EDT
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I see your point about doing incredible things with a common car (I agree about the Delorean) but it was the whole product placement overload. I suppose that got on my nerves more than anything in some of these films. I understand they get these cars free from the manufacturer but it just gets to be too much. Did you notice in LALD that EVERY car was a 1973 Impala? Look at all the cars on the expressway in the slow chase in the NY scene, even the villain drove one later. At least in the older Bonds (most sponsored by Ford) they showcased a few key Fords but still had the Aston Martin or Mercedes driven by some henchmen. As far as Pepper, yeah it got a laugh out of me when he first saw bond. What bothers me is that after he became Bond's "sidekick" for a short period of time, it would have been nice to see him finally redeem himself by knocking off one of the bad guys before he stumbled off stage. At least it wouldn't have left the question "why did all that happen"? But all this aside, I do respect that people like this movie; just like any 007 film. I like NSNA and that puts me in a minority too ;) Do you find this valuable? |
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TigerAtaru |
7. RE: One of my favorites
Apr 18 2009, 10:17 AM EDT
I get your anger with the AMCs, but I guess even in an era when there really wasn't "developed" product placement, they sort of wanted to show off certain brands. To me, the usage of the AMCs in TMWTGG makes it unqiue: since it's more a smaller car brand that ultimately went defunct, it just defines the energy paranoia of the mid-70s and shows both timliness and timelessness of depicting the era. More obvious product placement is throwing that BMW in GoldenEye...but that car was just so cool I can understand why they wanted it in.As for Peppers, I really don't consider him a "Bond sidekick" more than a recurring character for the two movies. He wasn't intrinsic to anything in the story, he was just there to add a bit more fun...which he did. I'm a bit more peeved in them bringing Jaws back for Moonraker (even if I like his redemption near the end) than I am with Peppers going to Thailand and getting into more trouble with "that British guy". Oh, and thanks for agreeing to disagree: I have this movie, you have NSNA. The great thing about the Bond movies is not everyone likes everything but we all appreciate the others likes and dislikes. Do you find this valuable? |
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hyperjet |
8. RE: One of my favorites
Apr 18 2009, 10:59 AM EDT
Well for the record I do like American motors; especially the AMX and Javelin. And it is nice to see some of them (I actually like the Matador with the wings) It does sort of put it in a nice time capsule. But there was such overkill with it; especially being in a country that would have probably never heard of such cars. But you are right, perhaps I need to lighten up and just make some popcorn and watch TMWTGG again. One thing about Bond films is you really have to hang reality at the door.The thing is I really want to enjoy all these movies (especially when I pay for them). And I believe every 007 film has some redeeming qualities. And I agree with you about the Jaws redemption =] Do you find this valuable? |
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9. RE: One of my favorites
Apr 19 2009, 6:03 AM EDT
While I think TMWTGG is one of the lesser films, I don't think it's as bad as some say. I personally think MR, AVTAK and DAD are considerably worse. Lee is a great baddie and I like the car chase (which I woulda liked more if they didn't add that silly sound effect to the car roll!) :-)
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QuartermasterQ |
10. RE: One of my favorites
Apr 19 2009, 8:01 PM EDT
"Oh, and thanks for agreeing to disagree: I have this movie, you have NSNA. The great thing about the Bond movies is not everyone likes everything but we all appreciate the others likes and dislikes."When it comes down to it, we all like Bond. We just prefer certain films to others. Do you find this valuable? |
007Jeff |
11. RE: One of my favorites
Apr 18 2010, 8:17 PM EDT
This Bond movie is a great one. It has been one of my favourites ever since I got hooked on Bond movies. And it's great to hear other people's takes and opinions on the Bond movies. With me there is such a slight margin between my favourite movie and my least favourite movie because after all, they are Bonds.
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S.P.E.C.T.R.E |
12. RE: One of my favorites
Apr 18 2010, 8:47 PM EDT
Many many people dont realize that this movie features a very dark side of moore's bond. When he is with Maud Adams character and he smacks her around and threatens her.It reminds me of how Connery was. Also when he points the gun at the one guy and says about the aim, that was very dark of his bond too. Over all I like this movie alot.
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13. RE: One of my favorites
Apr 18 2010, 10:14 PM EDT
THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN (aka Bottom of the Barrel Bond)
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14. RE: One of my favorites
Aug 15 2010, 6:55 PM EDT
"Many many people dont realize that this movie features a very dark side of moore's bond. When he is with Maud Adams character and he smacks her around and threatens her.It reminds me of how Connery was."I precisely don't like the way Bond treats women sometimes : Connery almost strangled a girl with her own bikini at the beginning of DaF, Moore smacked Maud Adams, Dalton tore Pushkin's mistress' clothes to use her as a lure in TLD and pined Carey Lowell on the bed and tactlessly took her gun, which was hidden on her thigh, in LTK. Do you find this valuable? |
