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Dmeyers
Dmeyers
Incendiary topic alert!!!!
Sep 24 2008, 11:16 AM EDT
OK, the last time this came up it was a bit of a conversational atom bomb, but I think it merits discussion. I, for one, think this is the right move. While I support gay rights (and am not sparking a debate here), I think this is what's best for the character. Bond flat out simply has never been a gay character. In fact, he's a bit (just a bit) of a womanizer so this would be an odd turn IMO. 5  out of 5 found this valuable. Do you?    
biggaybondfan
biggaybondfan
RE: Incendiary topic alert!!!!
Sep 24 2008, 5:21 PM EDT
Booooo!

OK, I'm biased. I acknowledge this is 'right' for the character. **sighs***
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purrduedvm
purrduedvm
RE: Incendiary topic alert!!!!
Sep 24 2008, 6:37 PM EDT
I totally agree here. I think it would be done just to appease certain people and appeal PC. Give me a break. It's not in THIS character's nature. People should stop trying to change who a character is to fit what they want. Let him keep shagging the beauties. Do you find this valuable?    
00seven
00seven
RE: Incendiary topic alert!!!!
Sep 24 2008, 8:32 PM EDT
"Booooo!

OK, I'm biased. I acknowledge this is 'right' for the character. **sighs***"
Bad luck there old chap.
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alexberg
alexberg
RE: Incendiary topic alert!!!!
Sep 25 2008, 2:11 AM EDT
Sorry biggaybondfan - I know you have high hopes. I'm with dmeyers on this one. The right move for the series. We have enough straying from convention already. This would certainly cross the line. Do you find this valuable?    
vid
vid
RE: Incendiary topic alert!!!!
Sep 25 2008, 8:32 AM EDT
if i had a time thingy or whatever that can take me to the past i would go and kill craig because he is going to crash bond with all this ''Gay'' talk and yes i do not support gay rights after i went to that gay cafe Do you find this valuable?    
00seven
00seven
RE: Incendiary topic alert!!!!
Sep 25 2008, 8:30 PM EDT
"if i had a time thingy or whatever that can take me to the past i would go and kill craig because he is going to crash bond with all this ''Gay'' talk and yes i do not support gay rights after i went to that gay cafe"
What gay cafe did you go to?
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vid
vid
RE: Incendiary topic alert!!!!
Sep 26 2008, 12:45 AM EDT
"What gay cafe did you go to?"
a very bad one
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00seven
00seven
RE: Incendiary topic alert!!!!
Sep 26 2008, 9:13 AM EDT
"a very bad one"
LOL. Ive been in a couple myself. Some were quite good and friendly to hetero sexuals invading their territory but a few were.....well lets just say...over friendly lol. I never felt threatened though, not even uncomfortable, just somewhat irked. Some people cant take no for an answer and my tongue can give as good a lashing as any gay mans.
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biggaybondfan
biggaybondfan
RE: Incendiary topic alert!!!!
Sep 26 2008, 4:30 PM EDT
Boys, boys, boys. I've been to a few 'cafes' in my day myself and let me tell you.....it can be a fantastic experience with the 'perspective.' Do you find this valuable?    
e007bond1016
e007bond1016
RE: Incendiary topic alert!!!!
Sep 26 2008, 7:55 PM EDT
I completely agree with you Dmevers. Although there are gay rights there is just no need to make Bond a gay character. Why would you consider doing that at all? I am not bashing anyone who might be gay but gay is still considered less normal than straight... 2  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
Green-Arrow
Green-Arrow
RE: Incendiary topic alert!!!!
Sep 26 2008, 8:16 PM EDT
I can't understand what makes a man hate another man. Help me understand. Do you find this valuable?    

Anonymous
RE: Incendiary topic alert!!!!
Sep 26 2008, 10:50 PM EDT
"I can't understand what makes a man hate another man. Help me understand."
How much time do you have...but that's another subject all together (not talking gay rights here just idiotic ppl in general...trust me...I've met too many...)
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tHe.iR1sH

tHe.iR1sH
RE: Incendiary topic alert!!!!
Sep 29 2008, 6:43 PM EDT
I don't understand why the gay agenda must permeate everything. It's like "the token black guy" factor. ...In the same light why must there be a gay character or even gay scene?

To respond to the OP, I agree with the article's interviewee. I don't see why the topic should have come up at all with the character evolution. If one is a smoker and all they can think about is smoking, they have an issue. I feel the same way about obese people with their food and homosexuals and their push for their culture. Get over yourself (everyone). You are a human..relate to the movie and people on that level. If you can't, then don't spoil the majority's experience with your queer (of the non demeaning sense) opinions, ideals and push.
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Matt_Bohlmann
Matt_Bohlmann
RE: Incendiary topic alert!!!!
Sep 29 2008, 7:12 PM EDT
Pretty sure this point came up the LAST time we had this discussion, but:

It WOULD be interesting to consider whether Bond would seduce another man "in the line of duty." What if Le Chiffre's weakness had been men instead of gambling -- is it inconceivable that M would say to Bond, "OK, put your charm and looks to constructive use for once"?

Not likely, of course -- it's a risk I doubt the series would ever take (or should ever NEED to take). But it's an interesting question.
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tHe.iR1sH

tHe.iR1sH
RE: Incendiary topic alert!!!!
Sep 29 2008, 8:31 PM EDT
My point exactly. It would NOT be interesting to see such. What is it with this queer fascination? And it is a fascination if people even suggest the notion of such a theme in the movie. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
purrduedvm
purrduedvm
RE: Incendiary topic alert!!!!
Sep 29 2008, 11:18 PM EDT
"I don't understand why the gay agenda must permeate everything. It's like "the token black guy" factor. ...In the same light why must there be a gay character or even gay scene?

To respond to the OP, I agree with the article's interviewee. I don't see why the topic should have come up at all with the character evolution. If one is a smoker and all they can think about is smoking, they have an issue. I feel the same way about obese people with their food and homosexuals and their push for their culture. Get over yourself (everyone). You are a human..relate to the movie and people on that level. If you can't, then don't spoil the majority's experience with your queer (of the non demeaning sense) opinions, ideals and push."
Well put and you said what I was trying to say much better!
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Anonymous
RE: Incendiary topic alert!!!!
Oct 7 2008, 11:54 AM EDT
Bond is not gay. Period.
Bond is the ultimate womanizer. Period.
Now maybe a gay villian. That would be funny.
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e007bond1016
e007bond1016
RE: Incendiary topic alert!!!!
Nov 6 2008, 1:52 AM EST
"Bond is not gay. Period.
Bond is the ultimate womanizer. Period.
Now maybe a gay villian. That would be funny."
Honestly I don't even think the franchise would create a gay villian. It isn't something that would "come up" in the Bond area...
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beatlehead
beatlehead
RE: Incendiary topic alert!!!!
Nov 6 2008, 3:28 PM EST
"My point exactly. It would NOT be interesting to see such. What is it with this queer fascination? And it is a fascination if people even suggest the notion of such a theme in the movie."
I DID feel somewhat sorry for Joe the Plumber the other night...
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