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Green-Arrow
Green-Arrow
From Russia With Love vs. Casino Royale
Aug 11 2008, 1:51 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 11 2008, 1:51 PM EDT
I *love* this matchup. Arguably these are the two films in the entire series that best capture Fleming's vision. They're also (for my money, anyway) based on the two best Bond novels.

Either one could have a reasonable shot at unseating Goldfinger in the finals.

I'm stumping for FRWL. Think about it: Blofeld feeding the Siamese Fighting Fish to his cat; Klebb's creepy interview of Tania; the scene where Grant shadows Bond on the train; the ferocity of their struggle in the berth; the execution of Kronsteen. Pedro Armendariz, Lotte Lenya, Robert Shaw, Daniela Bianchi... and the first appearance of Desmond Llewelyn. This is the one.
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calvtob14
calvtob14
1. RE: From Russia With Love vs. Casino Royale
Aug 11 2008, 11:36 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 11 2008, 11:36 PM EDT
"I *love* this matchup. Arguably these are the two films in the entire series that best capture Fleming's vision. They're also (for my money, anyway) based on the two best Bond novels.

Either one could have a reasonable shot at unseating Goldfinger in the finals.

I'm stumping for FRWL. Think about it: Blofeld feeding the Siamese Fighting Fish to his cat; Klebb's creepy interview of Tania; the scene where Grant shadows Bond on the train; the ferocity of their struggle in the berth; the execution of Kronsteen. Pedro Armendariz, Lotte Lenya, Robert Shaw, Daniela Bianchi... and the first appearance of Desmond Llewelyn. This is the one."
I agree that this is a good matchup. However, i am personally voting for Casino Royale. It gives a very acurate representatiohn of what Bond should be like.
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englandfan007
englandfan007
2. RE: From Russia With Love vs. Casino Royale
Aug 12 2008, 9:11 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 12 2008, 9:11 AM EDT
casino royale or goldfinger will win 0  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
Matt_Bohlmann
Matt_Bohlmann
3. RE: From Russia With Love vs. Casino Royale
Aug 12 2008, 12:12 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 12 2008, 12:12 PM EDT
"I am personally voting for Casino Royale. It gives a very acurate representatiohn of what Bond should be like. "
Welllll, sort of. Craig's Bond is not a commander in the Royal Navy, he plays Texas Hold Em instead of Chemin De Fer, and he's a lot more physical/athletic and lot less refined than the original character. This new Bond seems to have more in common with Jason Bourne than with Fleming's James Bond.

I think there's a phenomenon where people tend to inflate the most recent film in the series. At least, that's a trend you see in the imdb ratings - the ratings start out very high when a film is in theaters, then they start to dip down as cooler heads prevail. I'll bet if we'd held this same tourney back in 1979, Moonraker would have made it at least to the Final Four, if only by virtue of being the "reigning" film.

Which is to say, Casino Royale WAS a great film, but no way was it better than From Russia With Love (or Goldfinger, for that matter). Ten years from now, I think it'll be remembered as an above-average, but not exceptional entry in the series.
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calvtob14
calvtob14
4. RE: From Russia With Love vs. Casino Royale
Aug 12 2008, 8:31 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 12 2008, 8:31 PM EDT
"Welllll, sort of. Craig's Bond is not a commander in the Royal Navy, he plays Texas Hold Em instead of Chemin De Fer, and he's a lot more physical/athletic and lot less refined than the original character. This new Bond seems to have more in common with Jason Bourne than with Fleming's James Bond.

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I just meant theat Bond should ber more cold and ruthless, than charming
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moore4ever
moore4ever
5. RE: From Russia With Love vs. Casino Royale
Aug 12 2008, 10:15 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 12 2008, 10:15 PM EDT
Good match, hard to choose. 0  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
Bondgirls4ever007
Bondgirls4ever007
6. RE: From Russia With Love vs. Casino Royale
Apr 24 2012, 3:41 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 24 2012, 3:41 PM EDT
I have to say, casino royale or dr no, novels. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
Bondgirls4ever007
Bondgirls4ever007
7. RE: From Russia With Love vs. Casino Royale
May 7 2012, 8:02 AM EDT | Post edited: May 7 2012, 8:02 AM EDT
best MOVIE has to be CS Do you find this valuable?    
6-stringa007
6-stringa007
8. RE: From Russia With Love vs. Casino Royale
May 22 2012, 2:35 AM EDT | Post edited: May 22 2012, 2:35 AM EDT
Yep Casino Royale for me too. But From Russia With Love is still a close second. Do you find this valuable?    
DaltonCraigRules
DaltonCraigRules
9. RE: From Russia With Love vs. Casino Royale
May 24 2012, 7:01 PM EDT | Post edited: May 24 2012, 7:45 PM EDT
I'm a product of my time so I would go for Casino Royale any day. Craig is the strongest Bond, the one who really must be taken seriously (until the series goes mindless-blockbuster again, which is not likely to happen at least until Craig's departure). I still love From Russia with Love (the charming Bond girl and the ruthless blond villain especially), good old fashioned and genuine spy thriller. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    

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