"Part 2

How can you call two men or two women who choose to be monogamous life partners natural. Fundamentally those who would choose to do this would not be able to continue their genetic lineage, something that is essential to any species in the most basic and primal sense.

When I say it is disgusting, I mean that in the artistic, scientific, physical and metaphysical points of view. In my opinion, there is noting more beautiful then the human form (when in shape of course), except possibly the forms of a man and woman intermingled, as in a sexual encounter. The fusion of male and female, yin and yang, black and white, night and day... Everything in nature and the universe itself exists in polar opposites. Even molecular and the subatomic, such as electricity, with it's positive and negative, stemming from the respective protons and electrons. This polar relationship is essential to the most basic and most complex reactions and interactions in the universe. Not to mention the gay sex act itself, I can honestly say I have not been more disgusted than when I briefly watched to men having sex in a gay porn. Two girls is ok though ;)

Alexberg, you say you find the ignorance of my post appalling... What part exactly? As far as I know, I simply stated my personal opinions. Is one no longer allowed to do that here? Do you always call one with whom you disagree ignorant? I have to thank Joshiorio for engaging me in an intelligent and open minded discussion, as opposed to simply echoing the voice of the majority or slinging insults. It does not surprise me that he is a Ph.D. student. It is usually only the enlightened among us who can debate a topic without allowing their personal feelings to affect their retorts and positions.

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"Why do you call me a homophobe, did I say anything that indicates that I am afraid of or hateful towards homosexuals, as far as I could tell, I was attacking homosexuality, not homosexuals. I have a friend who's name is Jason (whom we affectionally call Gayson) who would disagree with you. Although I do not agree with his choices regarding his lifestyle, that does not relegate us to be enemies. I make jokes about him and he makes jokes about me. I call him a pole-smoker, and he calls me a breeder; however I certainly do not hate or fear him. In fact we have lengthy conversations at times about the fate of humanity and the role he plays as a homo and the role I play as a hetero. Think of it this way, if I was a non-smoker and you were a smoker, and I called your actions unnatural and disgusting; unnatural because it certainly isn't natural to inhale the vapors of burning dried bio-matter, and disgusting because of the way your fingers and clothes smell afterwards, not to mention the health ramifications; would you label me a "smokeaphobe". Would the fact that I disapprove of your choices in any way prevent us from being friends? Homophobe? I think not.

When I call homosexuality unnatural, I am speaking from a grander, evolutionary point of view. Since the first species evolved on earth, be it a one celled organism or humans themselves, they have relied on sex to reproduce and procreate their species. (Dismiss those who produce asexually for now). Evolution cleverly inserted certain genes into our genome that gave us a natural instinct to mate. We were given nerves in our sexual organs that gave us pleasure from sex, which in our less intelligent neanderthal ancestors, would be a primal and driving urge whether they ever received instruction in it or not. Instinctively, they knew to stick thier c**ks in their female partners v***na, and vice versa.

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"This is utterly appalling! Unlike those in the entertainment industry and the news media, the majority of Bond fans are decent, hardworking, semi-religious or spiritual people who's minds are not yet fully polluted by the disease of ultra-liberalism; people who still have the slightest grip on what is right and moral; i.e. people who still know that homosexuality is unnatural and disgusting. And to suggest that quite possibly one of the greatest cinematic heroes of all time be portrayed as a fudge-packer is beyond deplorable.

And how dare this idiot say that the producers should "modernize" the Bond character by making him gay... As if the newest fad is to go out and stick your tongue up some guy's butt, like being queer is the new BMW... W - T - F !!

How far has our society fallen if we are actually giving this issue anything more than a passing thought. How can any sane human being actually consider turning Bond into a buttpirate. James Bond, who has for as long as I've been alive been the epitome of masculine coolness, the embodiment of what every man would like to be... how dare someone suggest that that image be utterly and irrevocably destroyed.

I myself am not homophobic, I'm not even a Christian, and whilst I get along fine with gay co-workers and acquaintances, I don't at all approve of where we as a society are heading... Whats next? Socially acceptable pedophilia? If enough people decide they want to rape little boys, will the rest of us mindlessly capitulate as we have with this whole 'gay' thing? Will we all watch "Pedo eye for the 18+ fu*ker guy" on TLC???

As far as I'm concerned, Daniel Craig should be fired for even suggesting it, and every copy of CR be burned and their ashes scattered over San Francisco.

And for all you PC-liberal-drones who are going to complain about my post... Just think if everyone turned gay and our species became extinct. Thanks Alot ! "

"Sorry, the majority of Bond fans are P-E-O-P-L-E. And PEOPLE consist of heteros, gays, religious, non-religious, even non-spiritual humans. PEOPLE. Gay may disgust some, and not bother others. Both of those types may be liberal and may be conservative- most aren't spewing vomit-riddled tripe as you posted, even more important- most would much rather enjoy a Bond film discussion than spend any time reading your dribble, inappropriate as it is on this forum. Your hate riddled baloney is so 20th Century. In case you hadn't noticed (hard to imagine...) this group has a common "Bond", and basically we're all friends here. But "friends" is probably another of those concepts that eludes you. Sorry, ...won't bother to explain it- I don't want to bore the people on this group any further."

"Sorry, the majority of Bond fans are P-E-O-P-L-E. And PEOPLE consist of heteros, gays, religious, non-religious, even non-spiritual humans. PEOPLE. Gay may disgust some, and not bother others. Both of those types may be liberal and may be conservative- most aren't spewing vomit-riddled tripe as you posted, even more important- most would much rather enjoy a Bond film discussion than spend any time reading your dribble, inappropriate as it is on this forum. Your hate riddled baloney is so 20th Century. In case you hadn't noticed (hard to imagine...) this group has a common "Bond", and basically we're all friends here. But "friends" is probably another of those concepts that eludes you. Sorry, ...won't bother to explain it- I don't want to bore the people on this group any further."